Friday Roundup/Caps 4, Pens 3
[AP Recap - Game Summary - Event Summary - WashingtonCaps.com Recap]Never a doubt, right?
Yesterday we pointed out a handful of early-season observations, a few of which came a little closer to becoming trends last night: the offense is still clicking (especially at five-on-five, where all four Caps goals were scored); the penalty kill is still sucking (allowing all three of Pittsburgh's goals in six chances); Alex Semin is still scoring; and the goalies are still crappy early (Jose Theodore now has a 7.00 first period GAA).
At some point soon, this team is going to need to address it's slow starts, unquestionably a matter of focus. Luckily, they have players and coaches who should be able to fix that problem. A few notes on the game:
- If Tom Poti is out for any significant period of time with his groin pull, it's a huge loss (though the guys at CSN might not notice it for a while - zing!).
- It bears repeating - the Caps positively dominated that game at even strength, out-shooting the Pens 27-16 and out-scoring them four to zippy. In other words, cut out the penalties (or get better on the kill) and we're on to something.
- Tomas Fleischmann? Awesome. [Someone get a screen grab of that - I don't often bring the Flash love, but it was well-deserved on this night, and had he converted on that diving stab at a cross-crease pass, he'd have been a household name by noon today.]
- Sergei Fedorov continues to do it all (including putting up astronomical Corsi's), as he notched another plus-2, mostly from the blueline.
- Evgeni Malkin provided the perfect example of how reputation-based and inconsistent the League's officiating is. Awful.
- Boyd Gordon knew it was in. Mellon Arena knew it was in. Why didn't the guys wearing the stripes?
- I've been a frequent critic of Donald Brashear's, but his absence was notable, to say the least. Matt Bradley as enforcer = epic fail ("A" for effort, though, and it apparently sparked the team).
- Shaone Morrisonn had a horrendous first half of the game - two minors, the third goal off his leg - but got better.
- Y'know that silly in-game "entertainment" at the Verizon Center where two folks out of the stands compete to see who can do a better job calling the play-by-play 20 seconds or so of live action? I'm not sure Al Koken would have a .500 record if he participated on a nightly basis.
- It's a toss-up as to who's having a harder time getting going this year between Nicklas Backstrom and Chris Clark (and at least Clark has an excuse).
- Alex Ovechkin was trying to do too much. Similarly, the power play is way too cute right now. Plant someone in front and bomb away.
- Mike Green's hip check on Malkin was tasty.
- Finally, if Sidney Crosby needed a one-stop shop on his way home from the rink...
Elsewhere 'Round the Rinks:
The Caps dropped nine spots from tenth to 19th in Fox's Power Rankings. Over-react much?... Stack the Pads has plenty on the Caps' AHL goalies.... Braden Holtby's still rollin'.... The Kevin Kaminski era commences in Mississippi.... Finally, catch the rest of my conversation (where we talk goalies, attendance and whatnot... mostly whatnot) with Tapeleg and Tom over at The Rink Podcast.
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No one noticed Geno grabbing Mo's stick in the first, or Poti's obvious absence as you noted, JP. I especially loved Koken's brilliant deduction that Feds was moved to D because the Caps wanted more O. Quality analysis, to be sure.
Those minor quibbles aside, as big an early season win as there is.
by maruk on Oct 17, 2008 7:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NO ONE is worse than Rick Jeanneret...except maybe the Wings announcers on FSN (BLEHHHHH)
My thoughts
-Erskine blows, although he made a couple good plays in the 3rd, he still stinks
-Makes me laugh to no end reading the Pens fans reactions of how they were "jobbed" by the officials last night and their reactions to Ovi's "dirty" plays against Malkin
-Malkin's running Semin into the boards from behind had me SCREAMING in outrage when he only got 2
-Flash has been playing well all year...ive been really impressed with him
-Does the injury to Tippy Tom Poti mean its Karl Alzner time?
-I feel like i'm living in this weird parallel universe now where the Pittsburgh Penguins blow gigantic leads to the Washington Capitals...I'm still stunned it actually happened
by Ryan on Oct 17, 2008 7:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2) Flash was great last night. Skating hard and making smart decisions I thought. VERY impressive. I'm slowly coming around. Keep it up Flash!
by Eric on Oct 17, 2008 7:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by Eric on Oct 17, 2008 7:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What becomes the D rotation if he gets called up? Do they just pair him with Sarge?
I like the looks of a back six that looks like:
Green/Mo
Feds/Jurcina
Alzner/Sarge
by Ryan on Oct 17, 2008 7:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Clark will be okay once he gets to skate with one line consistently.
At least we did not give up a goal on the first shot last night.
Glad to see Matt came back. Almost scored too. Semin scoring after getting the "Geno special" was awesome.
Malkin does not know why Ovie keeps hitting him??? Yeah right.
by Kim on Oct 17, 2008 7:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know it's part of the spin, but I cannot get over the Pens crying about how they handed the game over. You were outworked and outclassed - if the Caps had been playing all game like they did in the third, you woulda been shut out. Now sit down and suck on your pacifiers.
Anyone getting the feeling that Bruce is coaching the guys to come out slow and then crank it up?
by Keith on Oct 17, 2008 7:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought Schultz had a good defensive game, especially in the second half of the third.
Great win, keep it up CAPS!!!
by Charlie on Oct 17, 2008 8:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That Friggin Malkin (I call him the missing link)- someone should ran him and took a 5-minute for his hit on Semin. A bullshit job of officiating for sure, but a brilliant comeback by the Good Guys!
Woo hoo! Now my kids can go to school and rag on all the Pens fans (we live over the line in PA)
by Paul Nichols on Oct 17, 2008 8:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Theodore gets in trouble when he gets upright, or when he gets caught in the transition from being low to standing up (or vice-versa). In the last two periods he stayed low-to-the-ice and was fine.
I've not seen the whole league on Center Ice yet, but Alex Semin is having a Hart-like start.
The reason the Caps are cup contenders: Three forward lines that can score. (And one D pairing.)
by Tyler on Oct 17, 2008 8:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And if Poti's out, I'm not sure they don't leave Fedorov in back and bring up Bourque.
by tg on Oct 17, 2008 8:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't get me wrong - I'm sure Sid and Alex use each other as measuring sticks all the time. But I give me Ovi vs. Geno for an in-game rivalry.
(Of course, perhaps the words Alex and Sid had at the end of the game might spice things up a bit.)
by JP on Oct 17, 2008 8:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by Tyler on Oct 17, 2008 8:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ryan, you were not the only one screaming in outrage at the screen when Malkin only got two minutes for that hit on Semin. Thank the deity of your choice that he wasn't seriously hurt.
I missed Brash out there, too. Bradley's a trooper for coming back. The Pens got away with murder out there without him.
Agree that Ovi probably hates the Penguins.
I like Alzner, but isn't he still a rookie? I'd think it's better to replace Poti with Federov (another vet) and bring up a forward. With Brash out, I'd almost be tempted to bring up Beagle, but would Bourque be able to take Kozlov's slot, in your opinion?
by this space for rent on Oct 17, 2008 8:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by this space for rent on Oct 17, 2008 8:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1. destroy Malkin
2. Score goals
3. destroy Malkin
Backstrom's stride seems shorter and jerky which keeps him a step behind the play. When he catches up, he's effective at getting off shots and keeping the puck. I was happy with most of the forwards play last night. Schultz and Erskine had terrible first periods.
by Melvisdog on Oct 17, 2008 9:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
with Backstrom a non-threat, Kozlov not around to create and possess the puck in the offensive zone, Ovi has been forced to try to do everything on his own. he simply cannot do that anymore with all the attention he gets from the opposing D.
Nylander has been spectacular. i didnt realize how hampered he was played last year with the bum shoulder until i've seen he can REALLY do this year.
Flash...i'm afraid to say he has arrived, because he seems to disappear just as quickly. that dive attempt towards the end of 3rd was sick.
Bradley is worth every penny of his contract so far.
i wonder if Malkin and Ovi will ever drop the mitts. i think it could happen...
by NS on Oct 17, 2008 9:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by Chris on Oct 17, 2008 9:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps I should have used a little "winky" at the end of my comment so you would have known it was a joke.
;)
by Keith on Oct 17, 2008 9:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by Joe on Oct 17, 2008 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
- The ice was garbage - yes, Ovie and Nicky and Semin try to be a little to cute early on, but he puck was skipping from late in the first period on.
- I dont know much about fighting, but why Brads let Bissonette back up is beyond me. He had him down and should have tagged him. Props to him, though.
- You had the feeling if they could get one after the Pens went to 3-0, they could get back in. The 3rd period was beauty to behold - and I have seen a lot of brutal domination of the Caps at Mellon Arena.
- Ovie's gunning for Malkin is a little unexplainable, but it's fun to watch.
- Jurcina is having a good season, and Erskine is underrated. Feds on D against skilled teams is the bomb. So much fun to watch him settle the ice.
Great show, boys. Loved it - I've seen way too many losses in Pittsburgh. This was sweet.
by Shaggy on Oct 17, 2008 9:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Malkin is clueless. I heard a post-game quote that said he didn't know why #8 was hitting him so often. Is there a women's league for him to play in?
Will the Crosby hype never end? He gets assists for being on the ice. He actually had a better assist on the Caps 3rd goal than on the Pens first. How can anyone argue that he is better than Semin?
Is there a face-shield for the hardhat? Brad's gets an A++++ for stepping up. He is quickly becoming my favorite player ala Kelly Miller long ago. (Ironic, huh?).
Officials are clearly not in mid-season form.
Boy, did we miss Brash last night..
by Boodgiesdad on Oct 17, 2008 9:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed also on Malkin only getting two for that boarding. That's five and a game. It seems the ice is still slightly slanted towards Pitt.
Plus I bet that doesn't happen with Brash in the lineup either... But kudos to Ovie for dogging him all night. And Greenie's hipcheck was a thing of beauty.
Chris Clark was positively invisible.
Flash is giving the indication that this may finally be his year.
Semin is a beast. That is all.
And I agree with ns, Brads is worth every penny. He may not be as good a fighter as Brash, but the guy has heart and isn't afraid to step up when he needs to. And he's as tenacious a forechecker as they come.
by Murshawursha on Oct 17, 2008 9:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really thought Semin and Crosby were going to go at one point. Would've loved to see Semin beat him down. Anyone get the feeling he'd be an absolute animal if he got ticked off enough to fight?
by Murshawursha on Oct 17, 2008 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2) The 5 on 3 goal I will excuse because the delay call on Erskine was garbage, as was the slashing call on Semin
3) Malkin should have been given five for the boarding call. It doesn't get more blatant than that
4) Ovechkin won every single battle against Malking tonight. Every. Single. One.
5) If the player Ovechkin is checking decides to drop to his knees to avoid the hit (Malkin), and if Ovechkins knees come near Malkin's head that is Malkin's fault for being a wuss.
6) People need to stop questioning Nylander's value
7) Flash looks like he's turning the corner, and was all over the ice tonight
8) Fehr played pretty strong for his first real action in almost 2 weeks
9) Jose played ok. Not great, Not Terrible, but he made some good saves later
10) Other teams are paying too much attention to Ovechkin, so everyone else has a little more room. That's how Gordon scored his goal. The Pen's d-man and Fleuery both had an eye on Ovechkin and just let Gordo walk in. Good for Gordo for taking the shot
11) I hope Bradley's face hurt that guy's knuckle
12) This is the kind of win that can sweep skeletons out of the closet. Caps fans are the ones used to having their hearts broken. We turned the tables tonight. This is the kind of game that can put the history in the past where it belongs.
13) Anyone who was dogging Kozlov should have noticed how much his presence was missed on that top line tonight.
14) Why in the hell are we doing a line change that results in a too many men on the ice call with only 6 seconds left in the period.
by Sombrero Guy on Oct 17, 2008 9:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by JP on Oct 17, 2008 9:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was forced to watch FSN Pittsburgh on Center Ice - never heard them say Poti was hurt.
by HotDog88GT on Oct 17, 2008 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by Sombrero Guy on Oct 17, 2008 9:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by b.orr4 on Oct 17, 2008 9:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you hear Koken call Russia the Soviet Union? Way to be up on things Al. (You have to bet he knows the first names of all the Red Rockers -- well all but one)
by Gustafsson on Oct 17, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crosby is a pussy and Malkin is a dunce.
That is all.
by AJD on Oct 17, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Erskine would have minded trading blows with Godard but they were already down 1 D-man, maybe Bruce told him not to.
by Joe on Oct 17, 2008 10:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1) Agree, it's downright terrifying most of the time, maybe the Green/Semin/Ovie PK experiment is a bust?
2) Concur
3) And a game misconduct, it was pretty f'n obvious, we're lucky Sasha wasn't hurt.
5) Concur
6) Never did, he's been a top 6 guy his whole career I don't know why people think his talent level is gonna fall off a cliff because of one injury.
9) Lucky for us and him we only need Jose to be average most nights, as he was tonight. (As a sidenote, the boys are still on my 4gpg prediction so far)
10) Absolutely, but they have to, just can't let Ovie beat you, because he will just ask Briam Campbell. The difference is that now the Caps actually can beat you BECAUSE of all that attention. It's a wonderful situation to be in.
12) Eh, I'll hold off on that one. There are a TON of skeletons in the closet when it comes to the flightless birds, most in the playoffs, which means alot more than just the 4th game of the season.
13) Concur
14) I have no idea
*15) I was browsing the Pensblog, not trolling, just looking, and noticed a number of comments on how they didn't get beat by Ovie, but a bunch of 'role players' and not in the good way, it occurs to me they may want to research the opponent a little more next time. Let's take a look at some of these 'role players'
Chris Clark - former 30g scorer
Rabbit - would be the #1 threat on about 25 other NHL teams
Nyls - a legitimate top 2 centerman, possibly a #1 on a lot of teams
Lil Nicky - runner-up Calder Trophy candidate
Fedorov - Do we need to comment?
Mike Green - arguably the best offensive D-man in the NHL
Fehr - 1st rd draft pick that has scored at every level
Flash - finally coming into his own, def can see why people (other than us) would see him as a 'role player' relative unknown
Laich - 20 g scorer and Chuck Norris' long lost brother
Sorry, I just got spun up a little by that comment...carry on.
by wittcap79 on Oct 17, 2008 10:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/index
by Anonymous on Oct 17, 2008 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If that's how you organize your rankings, then you don't deserve to make them.
by tim :) on Oct 17, 2008 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Related: the caption reads "In their first meeting this season, Sid had two points, Ovie none." While true, I'd have thought that something like whose team won would be worth mentioning.
by JP on Oct 17, 2008 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
@ Sombrero: Agreed.
And before we get too excited about Flash playing with marginal competence... he's still a liability in his own end and non-existent (at best) in the neutral zone. That stuff catches up with you over a full season.
by Tyler on Oct 17, 2008 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kane- 2 points, -3
Toews- 1 point, -2
I think all three of these guys will be fine.
by b.orr4 on Oct 17, 2008 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mercifully there was no sound on Comcast, at least in my part of DC, so I listened to the radio feed. It's an option since Joe will be out quite a bit. Or, they could boot Koken.
Finally, check out Therrien's post-game on the Pens site. He looks and sounds like he's sucking on a lemon. Suck away Pens.
by Lisa on Oct 17, 2008 10:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Put yourself in his skates on a night when he knows that Brash won't be skating. It's almost a given that he'll be challenged. Yet he goes out there and plays a complete game every time and never turtles.
Bradley has earned every penny of his new contract and displays nothing but grit and bravery on every shift.
by Eric McErlain on Oct 17, 2008 10:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately this is what the instigator rule has wrought. Instead of guys being held accountable for their offenses (here's looking at you PIT 71), designated dudes square-off WWF-style.
by Tyler on Oct 17, 2008 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brashear has some names in his notebook for next game. I actually read a few Pens blogs reactions and a comment on one said Brash was lucky he wasn't in the lineup or Goddard would have floored him. There was also a lot of weeping about our announcers being the biggest homers in the league based on their take that the boarding against the Geico Caveman should be 5 mins. I have tried to understand Pens fans, but I can't get past their sense of entitlement.
by B8ovin on Oct 17, 2008 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by b.orr4 on Oct 17, 2008 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I buy what the Corsi rating is selling. And I buy what my eyes tell me too: That Flash is a big zero in the D-zone.
by Tyler on Oct 17, 2008 10:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1) I didn't think Malkin's hit on Semin warranted a clear 5 and a game. Semin turned into the hit a little and Malkin let up a little. A penalty for sure, maybe a major, but not a game misconduct in my view.
2) You don't know what bad announcing is until you've had to hear JP Dellacamera and Daren Eliot do a Thrashers game. If you have NHL Center Ice and you're bored one night, turn it on. It's painful.
@b8ovin,
I believe the Ovechkin/Crosby exchange started when Ovie tried to score in the empty net with no time left and Crosby tried to hit him from behind. No idea what was said but I'm pretty sure the last thing I saw Ovechkin saw was "We won, so shut the fuck up."
by DMG on Oct 17, 2008 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by Anonymous on Oct 17, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by B8ovin on Oct 17, 2008 11:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting. I like it. A lot.
by Bobo on Oct 17, 2008 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't care what any of you say, having to listen to the Pens announcers is the worst thing ever. I had no idea why Fedorov moved back to D until I realized Poti wasn't out there. There were numerous other things that I can't remember now but made me hate them more. I'm also pissed that it looks like Center Ice is providing some home and away feeds for games this year but they haven't done so for either of the Caps away games. I always have to question the league when it seems Caps and Pens gets relegated to the land of who cares.
by Scott on Oct 17, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
/fixed
by bigonetimer on Oct 17, 2008 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He makes whoever he's paired with better--whether it's Schultz, Erskine or Jurcina--and if Poti is out then it should be an absolute no-brainer that he stays back on D.
by Anonymous on Oct 17, 2008 12:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wondered the same thing. If I'm the NHL, I want Caps-Pens on Versus twice and on NBC twice. (Or, failing that, on HNIC at least once.)
by Tyler on Oct 17, 2008 12:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Classy
by Slacker on Oct 17, 2008 12:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by b.orr4 on Oct 17, 2008 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The lack of a mullet helps us form coherent thoughts.
by wittcap79 on Oct 17, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1) I like Flash this year. last year we bitched about The Rabbit and his lack of offense. This year, he's a stud. Maybe this is the year Flash shows the O-skills and next year he rounds his game out.
2) Ovi is trying to carry the team on his back. He doesn't need to, and he needs to just enjoy the game and get into a natural rhythm.
3) When we have a game where the entire team plays great defense in the first period, we don't take a lot of penalties, and the goalies still stink up the ice, I will start to get worried. If the Caps are going to let teams have PP chances galore, can't clear the puck, or redirect shots on their own goalie, it's hard to say what we have between the pipes.
4) Apparently, I have Comcast Sportsnet now, because I watched the game on Center Ice last night but missed the third period. About an hour later, CSNNW had the game on with the Caps announcers, and I got to revel in the win. I now have access to CBC, NHL Center Ice, Versus and CSN. I think I'm going to have to tape a picture of my wife next to the TV so I can remember what she looks like.
by Brian on Oct 17, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by tg on Oct 17, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Classy
To be fair there are thousands of Penguins fans and it only takes a few idiots to make them all look stupid and of course those idiots tend to be the loudest. Couple that with the fact that the Penguins are the hot team to follow in Pittsburgh this year and you probably get a lot of 15 year old jocks who think that Penguins hockey is the most important thing in the world
by DMG on Oct 17, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LETS GO CAPS!!!!
by Usually Frustrated Caps Fan on Oct 17, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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